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Guests: Jon Patton – https://guncon.net – NILES, OH BIG PUBLIC SHOW DAY JUNE 20th, 2026 Industry/VIP Events JUNE 17-20, 2026

Gear Chat

• [Mischief Machine] MP-20 Full-Size Backstraps Mischief Machine offers backstraps compatible with Smith & Wesson M&P 2.0 full-size frames. The product is listed as a pre-order item taking 2-3 weeks to ship per batch. It is constructed from 316 stainless steel as a grip panel.12
  • Availability: Pre-order available at Mischief Machine (mischiefmachine.co), takes about 2-3 weeks to ship per batch.1
  • Special: 316 stainless steel construction.1
• [Derya Arms] EX1400 The Derya EX1400 is a 12-gauge side-by-side shotgun featuring a mono-block steel receiver, 24-inch barrels, tang safety, walnut stock, and black chrome finish. It measures 41 inches in overall length and weighs 6.61 pounds, shipping with Full, Modified, and Improved Cylinder chokes. This break-action shotgun is positioned as a value option with an MSRP of $699.0
  • Cost: $699 MSRP0
  • Special: Mono-block steel receiver0
• [Derya] DY9 Island The Derya DY9 Island is a striker-fired semi-automatic pistol chambered in 9mm Parabellum, featuring a proprietary Island Barrel Design with four top-mounted gas ports that reduce muzzle rise by approximately 25% and recoil by 12% for flatter shooting. It utilizes a forged 4140 steel slide, 4140 annealed steel barrel, and premium polymer frame with interchangeable backstraps, weighing 26 oz with RMR optic-ready cut and Picatinny rail. Capacities are available in 10 or 15 rounds, compatible with many Glock 19 magazines.
  • Availability: Available through www.derya.us, dealer locator at https://derya.us/dealer-locator/, complete upper at https://derya.us/dy9-island-barrel-complete-upper/, and distributors Lipsey’s, RSR Group, Sports South.
  • Cost: USA MSRP $599.00 (Complete Pistol 9mm 10rd or 15rd); $349.00 (Complete Upper with RMR Cut).
  • Special: Island Barrel Design: shifts mass to barrel with four top-mounted gas ports, reducing muzzle rise by ~25% and recoil by ~12%.
• Note Derya Arms
• Note (Nick) Ruger mk iv
• Note (Nick) Derya SxS
• Note Gary plauche day

Bullet Points

Gun Fights

• No one stepped into the arena this week.

The Agency Brief

• Agency Update THE HOOK (COLD OPEN)
  “Gary Plauché didn’t ‘take the law into his own hands’—he just put justice on a faster timeline.”

  THE INTEL (THE STORY) The Play-by-Play
  The Grooming (1983): Jeff Doucet, local karate instructor, manipulates the Plauché family in Baton Rouge. Classic predator playbook: isolation and trust-building.
  The Kidnapping (Feb 1984): Doucet abducts 11-year-old Jody, fleeing to California. Repeatedly rapes and abuses the boy in an Anaheim motel.
  The Rescue: Doucet allows Jody to call his mother; FBI tracks the call. Doucet arrested, Jody saved.
  The Ambush (March 16, 1984): Doucet extradited to Baton Rouge Metro Airport. News crews tipped off for the “perp walk.” Gary Plauché waits by the payphones in a baseball cap and sunglasses.
  The Shot: As Doucet passes, live on WBRZ-TV, Gary turns. One shot from a .38 snub-nose into Doucet’s head. “Why, Jeff?”
  The Verdict: Zero prison time. 7-year suspended sentence, 5 years probation, 300 hours community service. The judge and DA knew no jury in Louisiana would convict a father for killing his son’s rapist.
  The Reality Check (Hidden Incentives)

  Fear of Jury Nullification: The state cut a plea deal because they were terrified of a “Not Guilty” verdict setting a legal precedent for vigilance.
  Institutional CYA: The police failed to protect the kid, then paraded the predator like a celebrity. They needed the case to go away quietly to cover their own incompetence.
  The “Unwritten Law”: Backroom signaling acknowledged that while the law says “murder,” the community standard says “justice.” The plea deal was the system bowing to the reality that some people just need killing.
  THE 2A ANGLE (LEGAL & IMPACT) The Threat: Modern Disarmament
  Red Flag Laws: In 2025, a father in Gary’s emotional state would be “Red Flagged” and stripped of his rights before he could protect his family.
  “Mental Health” Trap: The state uses righteous anger as proof of “instability.” If you are angry your kid was hurt, you are now a “prohibited person.”
  Bruen Test: Text, History, Tradition

  Text: The 2A protects “the right of the people to keep and bear Arms.” It doesn’t cite an exception for “angry dads.”
  History & Tradition: The U.S. has a long tradition of “defense of habitation” and defense of kin. While vigilante execution isn’t protected, the right to carry for family defense is absolute.
  Analysis: Anti-gunners use Plauché as an “outlier” to justify broad restrictions. Under Bruen, you cannot restrict the rights of the law-abiding majority because one dad settled a score.
  Regulatory Creep: Backdoor Control

  Soli-Geography: Taking the “sensitive place” logic of an airport and expanding it to everywhere emotions run high (schools, parks, sidewalks).
  The Narrative War: Media uses this clip to argue that gun owners are “ticking time bombs,” ignoring that Gary was calm, precise, and harmed no one else.
  THE TALKING POINTS (ON-AIR READY)
  “The system calls it vigilantism. I call it parenting. Gary Plauché did what the courts were too weak to do.”
  “Gun control saves pedophiles. Disarming law-abiding fathers only makes the world safer for monsters like Jeff Doucet.”
  “In 1984, a judge understood that a father’s love doesn’t wait for an appeals court. Today, that same dad gets Red Flagged.”
  “Using Gary Plauché to argue against the Second Amendment is like banning seatbelts because someone used a car to leave a crime scene.”
  “Gary proved that sometimes the state is too slow, too soft, and too stupid to handle the monsters. That’s why we carry.”

The Alley

Going Ballistic

• Virginia S.B. 749: Senator Cites Handgun Attacks to Justify Assault Weapons Ban Virginia Senator Saddam Salim (D) sponsored S.B. 749, an assault weapons ban targeting AR-15s and semiautomatic rifles, which passed Democrat-controlled legislature on March 9, 2026, effective July 1, 2026. Salim justified the ban by referencing handgun attacks, including the 2007 Virginia Tech shooting and 2019 Virginia Beach shooting. The bill includes a grandfather clause for pre-effective date possession but prohibits sales, transfers, and new purchases.
  • The Gist: Virginians statewide; applies to possession, sale, and transfer of AR-15s and semiautomatic rifles.
  • Impact: Passed by Virginia Democrat lawmakers on March 9, 2026; effective July 1, 2026; grandfather clause allows retention if possessed prior but bans sale, transfer, or new purchases.
  • Bottom Line: Senator Saddam Salim cited handgun attacks (Virginia Tech 2007, Virginia Beach 2019) to justify banning AR-15s and semiautomatic rifles via S.B. 749.0
• Washington HB 2521 & HB 5974: Background Check Fee Hike and Sheriff Silencing Bills Washington Democrats passed House Bill 2521, allowing the State Patrol to raise background check fees for firearm transactions from $18 potentially to $35 to cover costs, and House Bill 5974, empowering a state board to remove elected sheriffs refusing to enforce gun laws. Both bills advanced through the Democrat-controlled 2026 legislative session and await Gov. Bob Ferguson’s expected signature. HB 2521 takes effect May 1, 2027, if signed, amid opposition citing constitutional violations.
  • The Gist: Washington state: HB 2521 affects gun owners undergoing background checks for firearm transactions; HB 5974 targets elected county sheriffs, particularly those opposing gun control enforcement.
  • Impact: HB 2521 grants WSP authority to hike fees as a ‘blank check,’ viewed as a poll tax impairing constitutional right to bear arms (Article 1, Section 24); HB 5974 enables state board removal of non-compliant sheriffs, backed by Alliance for Gun Responsibility but opposed by sheriffs and 86% in a KOMO poll.
  • Bottom Line: Both bills passed legislature and sent to Gov. Ferguson for signature (expected); imposes higher costs on gun transactions and risks state override of elected sheriffs on gun law enforcement.
• Old Dominion University Terror Attack (Virginia) Exposes Myth of Gun Tracing A terror attack at Old Dominion University in Virginia involved a stolen Glock 44 pistol used by Jalloh, a prohibited felon, highlighting the ineffectiveness of firearms tracing systems. The gun’s chain of custody was broken by theft, and its partially obliterated serial number rendered tracing futile; investigators identified the seller via phone records instead. The article argues that national tracing and registration efforts are obsolete, costly, and rarely solve crimes, citing examples like Canada’s handgun registry.
  • The Gist: Old Dominion University (Norfolk, Virginia); Newport News, Virginia (gun theft); United States broadly (hundreds of millions of firearms over 10 years old or stolen are untraceable).
  • Impact: Firearms tracing fails due to stolen guns breaking custody chains, obliterated serial numbers, and old firearms; registration systems like Canada’s handgun registry (since 1934) solved no crimes by 1995; promotes electronic surveillance over ineffective gun control measures.
  • Bottom Line: Firearms tracing and registration systems are obsolete, cost-ineffective myths that do not solve violent crimes, as proven by the Old Dominion case where phone records, not tracing, identified the gun seller.
• Minnesota Senate Testimony on Gun Control Bills: Exclusion of Pro-2A Groups The Minnesota Senate held hearings on proposed gun control legislation, excluding pro-Second Amendment groups from testifying while allowing a self-proclaimed Marine Corps veteran to speak. The veteran made claims about firearms, such as stating the AR-15 is more powerful than the M4 assault rifle. This highlights perceived bias in the testimony selection process.
  • The Gist: Minnesota (lawmakers and proposed gun control legislation); pro-Second Amendment groups excluded, pro-gun individuals like a Marine Corps veteran allowed to testify.0
  • Impact: Demonstrates political bias by silencing pro-2A organizations and favoring individuals with questionable expertise, potentially skewing gun control debates with misinformation.0
  • Bottom Line: Raises concerns over testimony quality in Minnesota Senate gun control hearings, allowing potential misinformation to influence policy while blocking effective pro-2A opposition.0
• Virginia SB643: Democrats’ Measure Restricting Firearms for Under-21, Impacting Military Members Virginia Senate Bill SB643 prohibits individuals under 21 from purchasing or possessing ‘assault firearms’—defined as semi-automatic rifles holding more than 20 rounds or with folding stocks, and certain shotguns—and handguns. The bill provides no exceptions for military personnel except during official duties, affecting younger service members like 18-year-old National Guard recruits and 20-year-old active-duty personnel in Virginia. Critics argue it unduly restricts Second Amendment rights in a state with significant military presence.
  • The Gist: Scope: Individuals under 21 in Virginia; prohibits purchase/possession of ‘assault firearms’ (semi-auto rifles >20 rounds or folding stock, certain shotguns) and handguns. No military exception unless on official duties.0
  • Impact: Legal/Political Impact: Restricts Second Amendment rights for under-21s, including military members off-duty; criticized as hypocritical given no Democratic sponsors’ military/law enforcement experience.0
  • Bottom Line: The Bottom Line: Younger military members in Virginia face firearm possession bans outside official duties, potentially complicating transfers from other states.0
• Rhode Island H.7755: Firearm Safety Training Certificate Requirement for Handgun Purchases (Savage) Rhode Island House Bill H.7755, sponsored by multiple Democratic representatives, mandates that handgun buyers present a valid Firearm Safety Training Certificate issued by the Attorney General’s office. The certificate requires completion of an approved basic firearm safety training course within the prior five years. The bill also seeks to eliminate the grandfather clause from a prior assault weapons ban, requiring out-of-state transfer or forfeiture of previously legal firearms.
  • The Gist: Rhode Island; affects Rhode Islanders purchasing handguns.
  • Impact: Requires handgun purchasers to obtain and present a Firearm Safety Training Certificate from the Attorney General verifying completion of an approved safety course within five years; removes grandfather clause from prior assault weapons ban, forcing transfer out of state or forfeiture of pre-ban firearms.
• Old Dominion University Shooter Case: Seller with Straw Purchasing History Avoided Federal Prosecution(Savage) A convicted felon and ISIS sympathizer who killed a retired Army Lt. Col. at Old Dominion University in Virginia obtained his gun from a seller with a prior history of straw purchasing firearms used in a homicide. The Biden DOJ declined to prosecute the seller for that prior federal violation. The attack was stopped by a ROTC cadet, highlighting issues in enforcement of existing gun laws.
  • The Gist: Old Dominion University in Virginia; affects victims including a killed retired Army Lt. Col. and two wounded; shooter is a convicted felon who tried to aid ISIS.
  • Impact: Seller previously admitted to straw purchasing guns used in a homicide but Biden DOJ declined federal prosecution; criticizes non-enforcement of straw purchase laws amid pushes for new gun control; no charges noted for current sale.
  • Bottom Line: Failure to prosecute prior straw purchasing enabled seller to provide gun to terrorist sympathizer felon, potentially contributing to the attack at Old Dominion.
• Virginia SB749/HB217: Assault Firearms and 15-Round Magazine Sales Ban (Savage) The Virginia General Assembly passed SB749 (Senate) and HB217 (House) in the 2026 session, banning the sale, manufacture, importation, purchase, and transfer of ‘assault firearms’—including many semi-automatic rifles like AR-15s, pistols, and shotguns—and magazines holding more than 15 rounds, effective July 1, 2026. Existing owners are grandfathered and may keep their firearms and magazines. The bills await signature by Governor Abigail Spanberger.
  • The Gist: Scope: Commonwealth of Virginia; affects residents, manufacturers, sellers, importers, and transferees of certain semi-automatic centerfire rifles, pistols, and shotguns classified as ‘assault firearms’ (e.g., those with pistol grips, threaded barrels, folding stocks, or magazines over 20 rounds), and large-capacity magazines over 15 rounds.12
  • Impact: Legal/Political Impact: Class 1 misdemeanor for violations; prohibits future sales/transfers (grandfathering current owners); part of Democratic-led sweeping gun control package including age 21 possession restrictions (SB643/HB1525), public carry bans on certain firearms (SB727/HB1524), and vehicle storage limits (SB496/HB110); opposed by gun rights groups with rallies urging veto.1314
  • Bottom Line: The Bottom Line: If signed by Gov. Spanberger, Virginia becomes one of ~11-12 states banning sales of AR-15s and similar semi-autos plus >15-round magazines, restricting access to commonly owned firearms while allowing possession of pre-ban items; gun stores report sales surges in anticipation.227
• Washington HB 2521 & HB 5974: Background Check Fee Hike and Sheriff Silencing Bills (Savage) Washington Democrats passed House Bill 2521, authorizing the Washington State Patrol to increase firearm background check fees from $18 to potentially $35 per transaction, effective May 1, 2027 if signed. House Bill 5974 empowers a state board to remove elected county sheriffs who oppose gun control laws. Both bills passed the 2026 legislative session and await Gov. Bob Ferguson’s signature, expected.
  • The Gist: Washington state: HB 2521 affects individuals undergoing firearm background checks via Washington State Patrol; HB 5974 targets county sheriffs publicly opposing gun control laws.0
  • Impact: HB 2521 criticized as ‘poll tax’ violating WA Constitution Article 1, Section 24; HB 5974 allows state board to remove elected sheriffs, opposed by sheriffs and 86% in KOMO poll.0
  • Bottom Line: Bills passed Democrat-controlled WA Legislature in 2026, sent to Gov. Ferguson for signature (expected); HB 2521 effective May 1, 2027 if signed, raising fees to cover WSP costs.0
• New York Times Profile of Brandon Herrera’s TX-23 Campaign and Gun Culture 2.0 (Savage) A New York Times article profiles Brandon Herrera, Trump-endorsed Republican nominee for Texas’s 23rd Congressional District, highlighting his background as a guntuber backed by the National Association for Gun Rights (NAGR). It discusses the rising influence of ‘Gun Culture 2.0’ influencers over traditional groups like the NRA in gun rights advocacy. Democrats aim to portray Herrera negatively by linking him to AR-15s amid Uvalde shooting sensitivities in the flippable district.
  • The Gist: Texas’s 23rd Congressional District (TX-23), a majority-Hispanic area with immigration concerns; gun rights advocates, guntubers, and their audiences; voters targeted by Democrats to flip the seat.
  • Impact: Elevates influence of guntubers and NAGR over NRA in gun rights politics; Democrats weaponize Herrera’s past videos and AR-15 content against him post-Uvalde; references Tony Gonzales’ support for 2022 gun control bill after Uvalde massacre.
  • Bottom Line: New York Times profile alarms left-leaning readers and signals intense Democratic opposition to Herrera’s campaign; urges 2A supporters to back the politically matured candidate in a tight race.
• Virginia House Bill 110: Democrats Exempt General Assembly Members from Unattended Handgun Law(Savage) House Bill 110 in Virginia imposes misdemeanor penalties for leaving handguns unattended in vehicles unless secured in locked hard-sided containers out of plain view, and establishes gun-free zones around the state capitol complex. It specifically exempts members of the General Assembly from these vehicle storage penalties when parking in reserved structures under § 2.2-1172 and pursuant to § 18.2-308.7:1. The bill has passed the Democrat-majority legislature and awaits Gov. Abigail Spanberger’s action, expected to take effect later in 2026.0
  • The Gist: Scope: Applies statewide to all Virginians for unattended handguns in vehicles and gun-free zones at the state capitol complex; exempts members of the General Assembly in reserved parking structures under § 2.2-1172.0
  • Impact: Legal/Political Impact: Creates misdemeanor penalties and gun-free zones but carves out exemptions for lawmakers, criticized as hypocrisy; likely to become law under Gov. Spanberger and face court challenges alongside other gun controls like assault weapon bans.0
  • Bottom Line: The Bottom Line: HB 110 enforces secure handgun storage in unattended vehicles for most but not legislators in designated parking, advancing amid Virginia Democrats’ gun control agenda.0

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