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Handgun Radio 396 – The Patriot Patch Company 1990’s PI Loadout Contest!

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world!

This week, we talk 90’s Los Angeles PI Loadout!

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Week in Review:


High Tower Armory


Ryan: Made some jerky, kids getting ready for school. Getting ready for NYC Trip!

-Drink Segment:  

Antidoto Mezcal


-Primary: Colt Commander 1911 .45 ACP belt Carry loaded 230 Gr Ball Ammo

– Backup:  S&W Model 60  with .38 158 Grain Semi-Jacketed Soft Point

– Long Gun FN-FAL Paratrooper with 18” Barrel loaded with 147gr NATO Ball

Car: First Gen Taurus SHO


-Primary: Beretta 92 in a shoulder holster

-Backup: AMT Backup 9mm pocket carry

-Long gun: Marlin 

Main Topic: 1990’s PI Loadout Contest!!!!!

We are going to do another loadout episode, which I know you all love! We have teamed up with Patriot Patch Company to give away some patches to our listeners! All you have to do is go like the Handgun Radio FB page (if you have facebook) and ask to join the Handgun Radio Discussion Group on FB. Also, send in your loadout ideas for an upcoming episode. 

The topic is: “You are a private investigator in Los Angeles circa 1992-1996  with a magical permit to carry whatever you want, in four categories: 1.) Primary Handgun (and method of carry)  2.) Backup gun (and method of carry) 3.) Long Gun (Can be SBR or shorty shotgun like Kurt Russell in Dark Blue) and 4.) Vehicle (have fun with this).

Ryan: H&K USP 9mm in a hip holster (like Vincent from Collateral) 2 Mags plus one in the gun.

-S&W Mod 60 with the hottest .38 Spl loads i can get, in my pocket

Long Gun: Ruger Deerfield .44 Magnum Carbine 240 grain JSP

Car: 1955 Chevy Bel Air


Listner David:

Hey guys,

Here is my offering for the mid nineties load out contest. I’m a mid 90’s detective in LA with a magic carry anything permit.

Let’s start with the car.

My main driver is a 1995 Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec. It’s cherry red paint and the 300 or so horsepower helps with merging on the 405. When I need to go low key, I have a brown 1988 Lincoln Towncar that helps me blend into traffic.

My dress is normally stonewashed jeans, a plain t-shirt and a flannel over shirt. The flannel helps conceal my main carry (a Ruger P95 in a shoulder holster). I always keep a OTF knife in my left pocket and my pager goes on my belt right side appendix. As an aside, I hear these “cell phones” are getting to be kinda popular, but my beeper hasn’t let me down yet.

As I gave away earlier, my main carry is a P95 under my left arm in a shoulder holster. A couple of spare mags ride under the right arm. A lot of my friends are getting the Glock, but as a 1911 fan, I am just getting OK with moving to 9mm. It will take time!

In the car, I have a shotgun, a rifle, and a couple of “advanced negotiation devices”.

I am rather plain when it comes to shotguns, a Remington 870 shortened to a 12 inch barrel is what I chose. I keep it loaded with the obligatory 00 buckshot.

The rifle is a full auto M16A2. I picked it up in 1984, not realizing how good of an idea it was at the time. It rocks 30 round magazines and one of the new Simmons Master Red Dots. I qualified expert back in the service but the dot makes things a lot simpler.

Those “advanced negotiation devices” are a couple of tools I found that really help open a pathway when I find myself on the wrong side of the tracks. First is a M79 grenade launcher I got from an army surplus store long ago. It doesn’t come out that often but when it does, it makes an impression. The other tool is a Cobray M10 in 45 ACP, also in full auto. I find myself keeping it under the seat as it is really quick to get into action and it certainly commands authority.

I am sure there are a lot of plot holes but this is my entry. Thanks for the great show and opportunity to wax historical. 🙂 Keep up the great work.


Listener Brett:

This was fun to think about, I was very much alive in early 1990s. I turned 21 in 1991

What I recall this was a tumultuous time for LA – racial tension , crack and drugs, gangs , and tons of homicides.

Now on for my detective character

Started career in the Marines and was part of early joint operations with Allies in the Middle East monitoring the ongoing conflicts between Iran and Iraq. He became very familiar with Israeli weapons while training with Mossad for those joint operations.  He participated in Operation Praying Mantis. He exited the Marines shortly thereafter and pursued a career with the LAPD. Based on his background, he was quickly made detective and spent time on the early task forces that focused on handguns and drug activity

Primary handgun Browning Hi Power custom work done by Wayne Novak. Primarily carried in a shoulder holster, or in a Milt sparks summer special

Back up handgun – Colt Cobra .38 inherited from his grandad.  Ankle rig

Long gun Original Galil folder in 308

Shotgun rides in a custom cruiser style mount in the Land Cruiser  

Special purpose gun original pre-86 UZI



Pocket knife millennium automatic knife from Rob Dalton

OSS lapel dagger

For situations that allow a sheath knife a classic Ka Bar

Clothes Jeans , Cowboy boots , and casual clothes


1988 Toyota Land Cruiser J60 GX with 12HT engine.

1986 Harley Davison Electra glide used for undercover work targeting gangs. While using bike UZI is the long gun tucked away in a saddle bag  

Thank you ,



Listener Jeff:

Hey guys great idea for a load-out,

If I am going back too 92, as a PI in the city of angels, I’ll be driving a ‘96 Ford Mustang Gt 5.0 convertible in gun metal gray, there’s plenty in the city and not flashy enough too draw too much attention, but will get me where I want too go, I just had a mobile phone installed in the car so it’s like my office now. My primary weapon is a S&W 659 in a Galco Miami Classic holster, this gives me 15+1 loaded Winchester Black Talons in the holster and 15 in each of the two extra mags, for a grand total 46 rounds of hate.  If I end up at the beach in my corduroy Ocean Pacific shorts I got an uncle Mike’s black Fanny Pack that will hold the Smith. For backup I got a Seecamp LSW 32 loaded with 6+1 Glazer safety slugs in an ankle holster on my left leg, because that’s what all the cool kids do. I have a Mossberg 590 pistol grip cruiser loaded with 9  #00 buck I can hide under my old Navy raincoat. I have a Cannon AE-1 program 35mm camera with a couple of different lenses as a PI a camera is a money maker. Lock picks are considered burglary tools in the Golden State and I have to be careful not to be caught with them. I also keep a  large Mag-Light flashlight in the car , less for illumination more for busting heads, I have a AA mag light with a red filter cap for seeing.

Well that’s it for me can’t wait to hear all the cool load-outs!

Always listening,


Listener David B.

As a Private Investigator in Los Angeles in the early 1990s, I’d need to be prepared for all sorts of trouble. The drug wars in Miami and the insatiable desire for cocaine from Hollywood, combined to make for a volatile and potentially deadly working environment. 

With this in mind, under my light weight dark blue linen blend suit, my primary handgun would be a Browning Hi-Power in a Galco Jackass/Miami Classic shoulder rig with two spare magazines. 

For a backup handgun, I’d carry an HK P7 in a small of the back DeSantis leather holster. A spare magazine would be adjacent to the muzzle end of the holster. 

Since two is one and one is none, I’d also have a backup backup handgun. A S&W Model 49 Bodyguard .38 Special in a Jay Pee Leather Ankle Rig with two reloads in a dump pouch on the opposite ankle. 

For a long gun, I’d have a full auto Uzi with collapsible stock in a DeSantis Secret Service shoulder sling with two spare magazines opposite. If the Uzi is carried, the Hi-Power would be in a DeSantis leather IWB cross draw holster below the Uzi magazines instead of the shoulder rig mentioned above. 

Since everyone needs a good knife, I’d have an Emerson CQC-6 in one front pocket and Mini Mag-Lite in the other. 

To get around, I’d be driving a metallic green 1969 GTO, “The Judge” with all the bells and whistles. 

In the trunk of the GTO would be a Savage 110 GXL (the left-hand model) in .308 Winchester mounting a Bausch & Lomb 3-9x40mm scope, as well as a 12-gauge Mossberg 590 Mariner with Marinecoat finish and Speedfeed stock. That way I could take care of trouble both at a distance and close in. 

Since I’d often be out of the office, I’d also have a Motorola bag phone plugged into the cigarette lighter (accessory outlet for you youngn’s) in case I needed to reach out and touch someone in a different manner.


Listener Oddball:

It probably comes as no surprise that I would be rocking a Beretta 92 in a shoulder holster under a jacket as my primary carry.  My backup would be an AMT Backup in 9mm that rides in my pocket.  I’d also have the just released Spyderco Endura riding in my pocket, along with a Victorinox Manager, Zebra 301 pen, Maglight Mini (the 2xAA model), and pocket notepad.  In the trunk of my car, I usually have a Marlin lever action in 45-70, just in case I run up against something or someone that needs a little more punch than the 9mm.

As for the car, I know Weer’d’s probably expecting me to go with a Mustang GT, or some other sports car, which is tempting, but I’m thinking that I I would go with something a little more discrete, but still quick.  I’d go with a Ford Taurus SHO.  A top speed of 143, and 0-60 in about 6.5seconds was pretty much unheard of in a 4 door sedan at the time, and it was a great sleeper at the time.

I’m sure I’m forgetting something, I usually do with these things, but I think that’s it.  Enjoy!

WEERD:  Given

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