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Handgun Radio 366 – The One With The Primary Arms Manhattan Loadout Contest

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world!

This week, we read the Manhattan loadout entries!

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-Got my picatinny adapter for free!

-Roasted a chicken!

The Instant Pot College Cookbook

Instant Pot Kung Pao Chicken

Ingredients

·         1/4 cup sesame oil (any kind)

·         1 medium yellow onion, sliced longways into 1” strands

·         1 bunch scallions, sliced, separate the light green bottom and the dark green top

·         1 green bell pepper, coarsely diced

·         1 red bell pepper, coarsely diced

·         3 tablespoons (6 cloves) crushed garlic

·         2-3 pounds chicken breasts, cut into 1″ cubed bite-sized pieces

·         1 cup chicken broth

·         1/3 cup low-sodium soy sauce

·         2 tablespoons balsamic vinegar

·         2 tablespoons cooking sherry

·         1/4 cup hoisin sauce

·         1/4 cup oyster sauce (or half and half hoisin sauce and soy sauce)

·         2 tablespoons smooth peanut butter

·         1 tablespoon chili garlic sauce

·         3 tablespoons cornstarch + 3 tablespoons water, mixed together to form a slurry

·         1 cup roasted, salted or dry peanuts, as well as some for garnish

Want other vegetables in there such as carrots, mushrooms, water chestnuts or baby corns? Add them in at Step 1 while sautéing the veggies!

Recipe

1.    Add the sesame oil to the Instant Pot, set to “Sauté” on the “More” or “High” setting. Allow it to heat for three minutes and then add onion, peppers and soft green portion of the scallions. Sauté for 3 minutes and then add garlic. Sauté for 1 more minute.

2.    Add the chicken and sauté for another 3 minutes, stirring constantly, until pinkish-white in color (it shouldn’t be fully cooked by now).

3.    Add in the broth and deglaze the bottom of the bottom of the pot so anything that may have stuck onto it comes up. Follow up by adding in the soy sauce, balsamic vinegar and cooking sherry. Give everything a good stir.

4.    Secure the lid, move the valve to sealing position, set to “Pressure Cook” on High Pressure for 7 minutes. Quick release when done.

5.    Set to “Sauté” on the “More” or “High” setting again. As it comes to a bubble, add in the oyster sauce, hoisin sauce, peanut butter, and chili garlic sauce. Stir well. When bubbling stir in the cornstarch slurry, allow to bubble for 1 minute and then turn the pot off.

6.    Lastly, stir in the peanuts and whiter, crunchier portion of the scallions.

Instant Pot General Tso’s Chicken

Ingredients

·        1 tablespoon sesame oil

·        1.5 pounds boneless skinless chicken breasts , cut into 1-1.5 inch pieces

·        6 tablespoons rice vinegar

·        6 tablespoons low sodium Soy Sauce

·        2+ cloves garlic, chopped

·        1 teaspoon ginger

·        1 teaspoon crushed red pepper

·        3/4 cup hoisin sauce

·        1 tablespoon brown sugar

·        2 tablespoons cornstarch

Instructions

1.   Set Instant Pot to the saute setting, and heat up the sesame oil.

2.   Saute the chicken, turning to brown on each side, but not cook all the way through, about 5-7 minutes total.

3.   Combine the hoisin sauce, rice vinegar, soy sauce, garlic, ginger, red pepper, and brown sugar in a small bowl.

4.   Press cancel on the Instant Pot, then stir the chicken and sauce till combined.

5.   Set the Instant Pot to Manual and cook at high pressure for 8 minutes.

6.   Once done cooking, use quick release to depressurize. Press cancel and return pot to Saute function. While simmering, whisk in the corn starch or arrowroot powder and continue to cook 1-2 more minutes until the sauce is thickened.

7.   Press cancel and serve.

Drink Segment:   Bombay Saphire

KIRK IS THE WINNER

RYAN LOADOUT:

Colt New Service in .44-40 under left arm

Swiss Luger in crossdraw on hip in .30 Luger

Cut down WInchester 1907 in .351 WSL in a briefcase (No NFA Yet)

Leather Sap

Bowler Hat, black suit with skinny black tie

WEERD Loadout: 

Strike Breaker for Union Oil, and Security.   Generally I like work clothes and a flat cap when working at the factories, or around the men, or in the streets,  but when working directly with the Rockafellers a suit, or even a Tuxedo is sometimes required

Guns:

Primary pistol:  Savage 1907 .32 ACP

Heavy Pistol: Colt New Service, .45 Colt

Persuasive:  Leather Sap

Rifle: Remington Model 8,  .35 Reminton

Distance: Springfield 1903 Sniper,  .30-06

Shotgun: Browning Auto 5 cut down  12 Ga

SHTF:  Colt Browning 1895 Potato Digger  .30-06

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Listener Kirk:

Dress: Standard double-breasted suit (buttoned), tie, leather soled shoes, and (of course) a Fedora.

Firearm: Colt Police Positive in 38-40 riding in a Shoulder Holster, with an alternate of a Colt 1913 .32ACP.

Less Lethal: A Slungshot (a kind of flail) in my jacket pocket and a sturdy oak cane (shillelah style).  Depending on my mood, a packet of ground red pepper in the other pocket (yes, there is historic precedent for this).

Peace favor your sword,

Kirk

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Listener David:

Hi Ryan and What’s His Name, 

Was this contest written specifically with me in mind? It seems almost tailor made as I lived in Manhattan for a number of years and I participated in Cowboy Action Shooting. 

On with the loadout.

As a gentleman, I’d wear a three piece suit with a bowler or derby. I wouldn’t wear a fedora as they were generally considered a ladies hat until after World War I.

My primary carry gun would be a .380 ACP Colt Pocket Hammerless Type II carried in a Half Breed style shoulder holster with two spare magazines on the opposite side.

Backup would be a Smith & Wesson .38 Safety Hammerless 4th Model in .38 Smith & Wesson with a custom 2″ barrel for easier concealment. I’d carry it in a leather inside the waistband holster positioned beneath the spare magazines. Reloads for the revolver would be carried in a vest or jacket pocket in a small pouch. 

In my support side back pocket I’d have a classic leather sap or slap jack in case someone needed a less-lethal tune up. 

Of course I’d have a small knife on me, most likely attached to the opposite end of the watch chain from my pocket watch. For more serious business I’d also have a Laguiole or similar knife in a pants pocket. 

Though I don’t smoke, I’d carry a Ronson Wonderlite in a vest pocket as the classic Zippo wouldn’t arrive until the 1930s.

If I was out walking I’d have a cane with a nice hand filling silver grip that could be used as a bludgeon if needed. Concealed inside the shaft of the cane would be a slim steel blade well sharpened and with a keen tip. 

I look forward to hearing your reactions to my choices. 

David 

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Listener Chuck:

Turn of the last century (roughly) loadout, suitable for discreet carry in the Big Apple.  Hmm, let’s see.

Probably a break top .38 S&W.  If I had money, a S&W Perfected, or Safety Hammerless.  If I don’t have so much money, equivalent in H&R or Iver Johnson.  Why?  The newfangled automatics are really new on the market.  I’m a crusty old phart who goes for reliability.  .38 Special is also pretty new, and I’m guessing the small guns intended for personal protection wouldn’t be chambered for it for quite a few years.

If the barrel’s too long for discreet carry “to the alarm of the public”, I’d have a smith shorten and re-crown the barrel, and mount a new front sight.

How would I carry it?  Nothing like a modern concealment holster is available. My understanding is that men’s clothing at the time included a pocket for a small firearm.  Thus, the “vest pocket pistol”.  Carry it in that pocket.  If it’s too hard on the pocket,  do up a rough pocket holster from leather.

“Less lethal”?  Perhaps a leather sap.

–cb

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Listener Dave:

Hi Ryan… I fear that this is a bit long, but here is my fictional story…

After the depression the government wanted to monitor banks more closely.  In 1940 I was appointed “Chief Bank Examiner” of Federal Reserve District 2 – which comprised all of New York State.  The prior decade was marked with a spate of bank robberies…Dillinger, Bonnie and Clyde, Pretty Boy Floyd, etc.  While I doubted that I would ever cross paths with a bank robber, I was spending a lot of time in banks and it seemed like a good idea to be prepared.   You see, back then, every citizen felt an obligation to uphold law and order, doubly so for an employee of the Federal Government. 

I wanted something to just throw in my briefcase.  Back then, guns were viewed as tools.   People looked at a gun like they might look at, say, a shovel.   Today though, just mention the word “gun” and someone is dialing 911! 

But I did meet with a lot of folks and occasionally would run into gun aficionados, so I wanted a conversation piece as well.   My choice was the Webley Fosbery semi-automatic revolver.   Yes, you read that right.  The Webley would rotate the cylinder and cock the hammer by itself.  The 38 ACP version came with an 8 shot cylinder as well, another peculiarity for the time.    There we many times that I pulled out the Webley for interested parties.  For the more incredulous, a trip to the alley was in order.  After ventilating a few garbage cans they were made believers. 

I knew it was unlikely that I would ever use the Webley to fend off the criminal element, but it was comforting knowing that I had it.  In my dreams I imagined myself on the running board of a Ford Coupe as part of a posse chasing a bank robber.  One hand holding on to the door pillar the other holding my “Bankers’ Special” Trilby hat on my head.  The Webley tucked in my belt of course. 

I also kept eight additional rounds in my dark blue wool suit coat pocket along with my change.  It was not usual to pull out a hand full of coins to buy a pack of Chesterfields and find a cartridge or two mixed in.  Clerks never raised so much as an eyebrow.  A stunt like that today would likely land you in the back of a police car. 

The Webley is not the only gun I own.  I also have an Ithica Model 37 shotgun procured via the Sears catalog.  It’s a great gun for duck hunting and I keep it loaded by the back door.  My wife knows how to use it should the need arise while I’m on the road.  My boys use it from time to time too – to dispatch foxes nosing around the chicken coup.

Times sure have changed.  And I can’t say it’s been for the better either. 

Thanks,

Dave

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Listener Brian:

While I prefer my native Arizona, I have been brought to Columbia as a visiting professor so I find myself in Manhattan for a time. My daily wear is an out of fashion dark tweed suit I had made in London a few years back. Being a professor gives one a bit of latitude for eccentricity in fashion. My hat is of the English driving style as I find it doesn’t blow about in the wind so much as the more fashionable brimmed hats. Of course I have the required tails and top hat for the unavoidable evening social functions. 

My preferred handgun is the single action Colt revolver, but here in the city I carry a .32 Colt 1903 automatic comfortably in a pant or coat pocket. For evenings on the town I add either a walking stick, or umbrella if rain is likely, both with which I have trained to use with a Japanese teacher my friend TR introduced to me when he and I practiced ju jitsu together while he was president. Along with the Japanese martial art, a small set of brass knuckles in my pocket have proven their worth for the rare visits to shadier saloons, pubs and clubs. The weight also balances the Colt when carried in opposing pockets of my outfit.

As for tobacco, I have never enjoyed it. But a silver flask of single malt is a constant companion in my coat’s inside pocket.

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Listener Kyle

Hey Ryan and my creepy uncle Weerd Beard.

For my loadout I really leaned into the character. (Warning: Like all gun owners, he has some biases that are completely ridiculous. Take with a grain of salt. )

I am a private detective living in Manhattan around the turn of the century and a veteran of the 1899-1902 War in the Philippines. As such I have a strong dislike for anything made by Colt due to my bad experiences with the delicate M1892 Colt DA Army in the anemic 38 Colt.

All my carry guns are Smith and Wesson. I also dislike those new semi auto pistols that are all the rage. Why?

I purchased a Webley Mk1 Auto in 455, and though very attractive and well fitting in the hand it has not been overly reliable. I also purchased a 1910 Bergman in 9mm Largo. It is reliable and the ten round capacity is nice, but ammo and spare magazines are impossible to find locally. As such, when I see the new hideous Colt Automatics I turn up my nose. 

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Listener Jeff H

Well, for my Discreet 1899-1915 Load-out in the city of New York I would wear a suit of the time and  I prefer a fedora hat . My firearm would be the S&W Safety Hammerless in 38 S&W, carried in a cowboy style skeleton rig shoulder holster or clip spring, under my jacket on the left side. I’m sure cartridge holders could be sewn into the right side suit pocket. A whiskey flask for the inside breast pocket. For non lethal, a cheat first a sword cane which could be both leather and less lethal, but I would also in my back pocket have a black Jack or sap, as I remember as a youth my maternal grandmother showing me 3 well aged black leather black jacks carried by my great grandfather when he worked for the railroad.

Thanks for the podcast and chance too win.

Jeff H.

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Listener Jason:

If I was living in turn of the century Manhattan I would be outfitted in a custom tailored suit modified to aid in concealing all of my weapons; overcoat/duster, jacket, vest, shirt, pants, study belt, and boots, all topped off with felt derby and western bow tie.

I am basing this attire and load out on the assumption that I am going to have a rough day, and going into a hostile environment. 

For primary defensive weapons I would have two Webley-Fosberys Automatic Revolver, in a leather vertical shoulder holster, one under each arm.  The .455 round is now considered a little anemic, throwing a 265 gr bullet at 600-700fps, but I think it would definitely leave a mark in those days.  I think I would have suspenders that might double as bandoleers for the Webley-Fosbery.  Another option I considered was two Mauser C96s. 

In my right hand side vest pocket I would have a Colt 1908 in 25 ACP, and in the other pocket I would have a pocket watch on a chain. 

In my left jacket chest pocket I would have a pipe, Tobacco pouch, and match case.  In my right I would have a flask, and I would take Weerds suggestion for a quality whiskey of that time period.  As for the waste pockets I would have a Colt 1903 in 380 ACP in my right hand, and in the left I would have a Protector Palm Pistol in .32 Extra Short.  Of course all of the weapons would have an appropriate holster or sheath sewn into the pockets. 

For an offensive weapon I would have a Winchester Model 1907 in .351 Winchester, flinging a 180 gr pill at 1400 fps, and equipped with the 10 or 20 round magazine.  Its factory length with a 20-inch barrel is 40-inches, but I think I could shave a few inches off the buttstock and 4-6 off the barrel and have a very hand tool that would easily fit under my overcoat with a leather sling holding at approximately the 3:30 position barrel down, but could easily be reached or staged in the case of impending need.  I would have extra magazines for the 1907 sewn into the liner of the overcoat.

As far as less lethal I would have a simple folding pocket knife in my pants pocket in addition to a fixed blade boot knife in my right book.  Next, both a less lethal and a lethal option, a Cane Gun that could be used as a blunt force option or as a firearm in a time of true need, hopefully it would act as a deterrent for predators just from the thought of it as a weapon. 

Oh and just for those times when you are really expecting the shit to hit the fan, under the saddle of my horse I would have a Lewis or Madsen Gun on one side and a Remington Model 8 in .35 Remington on the other.

Other notable runner ups that I couldn’t fit in:

·       Auto 5 Whippit Gun

·       Mares Leg

·       Webley Bulldog

·       1911

Thank you for the hours of entertainment that you provide.

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Listener Myles:

Good morning chaps,

My attire would be a suit similar to the one pictured bellow with a Colt New Service revolver in a shoulder holster under my right arm.(I am left handed) besides my pocket watch I will have a folding pocket knife from Tidioute Cutlery Company in my right pocket.

Thanks for the great show,

Myles (from western Massachusetts)

P.S. if you want to increase your ability to carry in pocket look at Duluth cargo pants and shorts. I can carry a Canik tp9 elite SC in the shorts along with a spare magazine and two pocket knives with ease during the summer. Only change with pants is I upgrade to a Canik Rival.

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Listener Nate:

Physical Appearance 

5’11” 180 lbs

Black Fedora 

Custom 3 piece Italian handmade suit (black)

Handmade black wingtips

Handmade Italian silk shirt, black

Handmade Italian silk tie, black

Custom black calf length leather duster, handmade

Custom gold Rolex watch, black leather band

Load out 

Two Custom Colt M1911 handguns, caliber .45 ACP, with custom antiqued ivory ‘Hand of God’ grips

Both M1911s are in Colt’s Royal Blue, polished to a mile-deep shine

Custom gold bead front sights, blacked out rear sights

Both guns are housed in a custom double shoulder holster, black, handmade 

Ammunition is standard 230 gr military ball (in keeping with the sub-1916 theme), custom hand loaded to be subsonic

Custom 6.5” Damascus Bowie knife in a handmade horizontal leather sheath, small off back carry

Garrote, stored in suit jacket inside pocket (for close in, silence is best situations)

Less Leathal load out

Brass Knuckles stored in front right pocket

2” punch dagger neck knife

Medical equipment

Tourniquet

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Listener Mike:

I’d be wearing a three piece suit with pinstripes. I’m Italian, so it’s likely I’d be involved in “lost & found” (you need a guy “lost”? I’ll find him!) I’d have an Omega or Matheny-Tissot pocket watch. Shoes would be wing tip oxfords. No hat.

My preferred loadout would be a Colt New Service in a shoulder holster with a barrel cut down to 4 inches. For a backup,  I would carry 1908 Colt Hammerless in .380. Two extra mags on the Hammerless.

If I’m rolling heavy that day (again, I’d be in the lost & found business), I’ll have a Winchester Model 1897 or Model 12 shotgun for some slam fire fun. This would be before WWI so no Germans to complain about it. 

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Oddball:

Here’s my loadout for turn of the 20th century Man-HHHAT-tan:

First off, I would be wearing a 3 piece suit.  If it was cold out, I would throw on a wool overcoat.

In the left vest pocket, I would have a gold pocket watch with a chain attached to one of the vest’s buttons, and a fountain pen in my shirt pocket

If it was late enough, I would have a Savage 1907 .32acp pistol in a shoulder holster.  If not, replace it with a S&W top break in .38S&W.

I would drop a Case pen knife in one of my front pants pockets for most minor tasks, and a 5 inch locking navaja knife (see link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navaja) for more “serious” work.

Finally, I would have a flat blackjack either in my pants’ or overcoat’s pocket, depending on the weather.

Hope you guys are having fun, and, as always, I enjoy the show.

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